Frederic Engellant: I really don't see the what's so special about this 2 pac character either. Who has a name that begins with a number. I never really understood these rap monikers.
Cody Shimko: By no means do i believe Pac was a lyrical genius, IMO he was average in that department. The reason i do believe Pac was one of the best ever was because he gained all the fame and fortune and still managed not to sell out he still kept it real and still made songs that appealed to the streets, and some how white suburban teenagers. Also he was a versatile MC, he could go from storytelling to a diss song to talking about street life, which in my books gives him alot of points, which he seemed to do without missing a beat....Show more
Enriqueta Steffen: I'm not a big fan of Tupac either, but it's mainly more because of his attitude and his stans, other than anything else. Lyrically though, I do think he's quite nice, just not as great as he is made out to be.Firstly,! he does consistently use multi-syllabic rhymes. I know that most emcees do this, but he was quite consistent with it and didn't compromise his lyrical content for it, which a lot of other emcees do. Secondly, I think his delivery is nice. The best example I can think of is "Hit 'em Up". Not in so much of a technical sense, but just in terms of raw passion.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4HjsZqOaQ0
Russ Kiernan: BESIDES HIS MAINSTREAM SONGS HAVE YOU EVER LISTENED TO HIM? APPARENTLY NOT.
Lissette Semon: I'm happy someone finally asked this question.I've wondered a loonggg time why he's as popular as he is. It never made any sense to me. I think the reason for his popularity is that he's the first really famous rapper to get shot. Death is one of the greatest things an artist can do for their legacy.Just look at Kurt Cobain. A talentless, lazy musician who writes songs about sick subjects like suicide and rape-thrill, and then kills himself and is suddenly loved a! nd missed by everyone.I suppose if any musician wants to gaura! ntee themself a legacy they might as well go do something stupid and get themself shot like Pac....Show more
Elinore Schlinker: all these fake azz rappers today that talk about their this and that. tupac was the only real rapper ever. these rappers are fake most of them are and they are made to be something that their not. you really dont know what the music industry is like. look at my name on my avatar thats what tupac was against and thats why he died. tupac was the truth and people couldnt handle it. you have your opinion though and i really respect that because i dont know whats the big fuss about lil wayne. he is straight up garbage....Show more
Jene Licausi: tupac was real. idc who got the hardest rhymes or the hardest flow. if you aint real about what you speak than it dont mean nothing. and than people gone see through you and start testing you.
Felicitas Phildor: See, I don't think Pac was on a level with Chuck D lyrically - I actually think Chuc! k D's lyrical skills get pretty overlooked. I've never heard Pac use multis or wordplay like Chuck D does. But then, in fairness, I do listen to Chuck D a hell of a lot more than I listen to Pac, so I know his music and lyrics better.
Cassondra Vanholland: Lol @ "PpL wHO tYpE Lk THs"But in all seriousness, many people already touched on it before me. The reason you should have a higher opinion of 2Pac is because "skill" isn't all about "multis" and "wordplay" and "metaphors". Subject matter and lyrical content are underrated on Y!A, but not lost on the millions of people who were touched by Pac's music. Somebody mentioned that 2Pac has passion and energy on the mic and that he has a good voice. These things are part of delivery, which is a "skill" whether you think so or not. Being able to make music people can relate to, and making people who couldn't relate to it understand it as well is a skill. I don't think you realize that all of this stuff is a part of ly! ricism. Writing lyrics with deep meaning and expressing emotions throu! gh your words is something you have to work at when you write lyrics, and believe me, it's not easy. I know far more people who find it easier to put together a bunch of big words and punchlines than to write something that moves you. For the record, I'm not a huge 2Pac stan either, but I do see where people are coming from when the rate him, because I have a similar mentality in my ratings....Show more
Arlen Hamper: He had a really good voice for rapping, he kept west coast on the map after g-funk was dying out, and he made songs that alot of women respected. However, he is not that lyrical. He didn't use big words to sound intelligient. He just told stories using simple rhymes and words, and that was good enough for most people. Sometimes, i'd rather hear songs that are simple and i can understand, rather than songs that use big vocab and i have to get a thesarus to see what they are saying. "Dear mama" makes me tear up every time i listen to it. It's just the emo! tional appeal he gave to people through his music....Show more
Granville Stray: I think his main appeal is 1. The subject matter in his most popular tracks (like the ones you said)2. His energy on the mic. Nobody can say he is boring.3. His voice (I'm dead serious on this.. he's got one of the best voices)There are some lesser known tracks of his that impress me for one reason or another.. like this onehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNJZEgQ109w
Hobert Dula: As corny as it may be, a lot of his most famous songs are really touching and easy relateable for people who grew up in a similar environment - low-income and disadvantaged communities. As cliche as it is, the topics he covered (arguably the most varied of any rapper, ever) touched upon some of the most sensitive issues for those communities throughout the country. Everytime I listen to Keep Ya Head Up or Dear Mama or Brenda's Got a Baby I'm able to picture multiple events/people from my childhood, and a uni! ty occurs that really does bring people and communities together becaus! e we can relate on the issues Pac is describing. And while the 'poor kids' can relate, the middle and upper-middle communities were presented with music that was not only greatly controversial, but innovative in the sense that it challenged them to rethink their positions on important social issues. Those that internalized these new feelings were often left with a renewed sense of urgency and of responsibility to at least be aware of what was going on in urban communities. Others took these new feelings and it opened up their imaginations to the depth and severity of some of the world's problems. I'm going to school with people who had never met a minority before they met me, yet they know very well who Tupac is and of his music. I can't begin to imagine what their thoughts were when they first heard "Changes" or "Thugs Mansion." Yet, they're Democrats, but they've never really met the same people they have tried so increasingly to help....What I find most interesting, and! this applies *ONLY* to Tupac, are that his most popular songs are those uplifting, positive and meaningful ('real') ones. Why did Lil Wayne's "Tie My Hands" get almost absolutely *NO* attention? He is underrated as a rapper, though. There's more to being a complete emcee than merely having a complex rhyme structure. The emotion, the charisma, the flow, juuxtaposed with the variety in subject matter elevated his game and make it easy to overlook the less than superb rhyme scheme and 'lack' of wordplay and multis (which he used sparingly)....Show more
Curt Broadhead: I guess the word reasonable got ignored. And yes, I have listened to him besides his mainstream songs. Do you have an answer for the actual question or not?
Susan Rambo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xgRLWE5Vfc
Logan Bero: I'd argue he was about as lyrical as Chuck D (if not more so), while in some peoples perspective making a comparable imprint on hip-hop culture; conscious and otherwise.Edi! t: Its a rather vague argument, I admit.Edit: Derek - You absolutely MU! RDERED your entire argument with this statement: "Just look a Kurt Cobain. A talentless, lazy musician..." You are a silly little person....Show more
Donita Desjardin: If you're purely looking at Tupac's skill as an emcee you're missing the reason why he might be the greatest rapper to ever live. His greatness is not defined by a rhyme, microphone, song, or album. It's who he is as a person and what he stands for. His character is larger than any other rapper in history. Was he the greatest as far as pure skill goes? Not necessarily, there are better rappers out there. But that is such a narrow minded focus that it misses the scope of what Tupac is, what he represents and why so many people praise him. He did something to music no artist before or since has replicated in my opinion. You have to understand the man who is Tupac Shakur before you can even think of trying to comprehend his music and all of the messages that lie within it. Looking at lyrics alone ! cannot help you....Show more
Frank Crummell: I liked him in "Juice" and that's it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09mKdrbkzlY
Fred Caminita: Billionairekid - what else should a musician be judged on but their music? When I listen to an album, I'm not sitting down to dinner with that artist, I'm just trying to listen to some good music. So of course I'm going to judge an emcee on their skills as an emcee. I know plenty about Tupac as a person, and I think a lot less of him for that than I do as a rapper.
Joan Stavropoulos: Don't worry. PAC isn't as great as everybody says. He's decent, but people like jumping on the "Tupac = GOAT" bandwaggon. Those basterly fvcks!
Nicolas Cooley: There was a time when "nice" was used in the same way. It's sarcasm. The difference here is that the gay community is the butt of the joke. There are very few scenarios in modern parlance where gay is used to mean joyous (some revisited older texts, in a few old song lyrics! ...) so to use it in the dismissive manner "That's so gay!" will resona! te more strongly with the audience's awareness of the Good As You community than with the happy meaning. This is why it is derogatory, the implication being that anything which the user finds unsatisfactory is attributable to the gay community. As for the term "breeder", I only use it to describe people whose hobby or job is to breed livestock or pets. They can be Straight or LGBTQ. While I don't approve of the use of the phrase - at least Chris' actions sparked a debate. Use it in company, if you will, but make sure you've first installed a really good gaydar. Otherwise you may be subject to the same verbal slaughtering that was afforded Chris Moyles....Show more
Lahoma Beadell: Personally, I think Pac was great. Overrated, but great.I know this is a cliche answer, but 2Pac was/is the GOAT at expressing feelings and emotions through a song and I highly doubt there will EVER be anyone as good as him at it. I know he wasn't a lyrical genius, but the way he presented th! ings to you was genuine and really touched your soul. He had an astonishing way of capturing your attention and making you listen. That, in my eyes, made up for his lyrical inadequacy. It's an underrated skill, and that's where a lot of my respect for him comes from.Edit: Chuck made a great point. You say you don't see 2Pac's skill, yet he has equal, if not more skill than Chuck D and twice the energy....Show more
Ariel Arons: he was good during his time (the struggling gangster life bullshit) but if you compare him to modern rap... you just cant rap has evolved to much from underground to mainstream. and honestly his flow isn't that great, but at the same time he changed the whole rap game
Gabriel Realmuto: Tupac was a very influential rapper and many emcees today use some of his lines as hooks. His singles don't do him justice. If you want to find the real good music you have to dig deep. Anyone who says Tupac's flow wasn't good is a horrible judge at music. T! ruth be told I didn't like him at first, but he jus grew on me. Everyon! e has different opinions of music and different sounds appeal to different people, so if you don't like him, you don't like him. There's no need in forcing it just because everyone else likes him, ya know?...Show more
Charis Deguzman: Realistically, I cannot. I like Tupac and he was one of the more conscious mainstream MCs, but he wasn't that good of a rapper. He always had good messages, and you could hear his emotion, but, as I've said, skill > content. I feel about Pac the same way I feel about a lot of other MCs. They're not bad, but I've heard better, so why bother.Also, if you're familiar with Pac outside of his music you can't take his work at face value....Show more
Lawanna Livsey: "BESIDES HIS MAINSTREAM SONGS" = Fail of the DayI don't like Tupac, so obviously i'm not going to tell you why you should have a higher opinion of him, but I will say that in comparison to a lot of other mainstream artists after him who sold well in the millions, he is tru! ely great, that being said, so is Eminem, but both are very sketchy characters. Pac was straight foolish, and then suddenly had a moment of seriousness, and the same thing can be said for eminem, this makes them way more contreversial, which is why you get a lot of people on the one side (dick riders) and then the smaller percentage (those that don't see the hype). Speaking in terms of emcees, there are a lot way better than Pac, but in terms of solo artists that sold well into the millions world wide, i'd say Kanye West, Nas, Biggie and Jay-Z are the only ones truely better than Pac, and other emcees in the same caliber as Pac that I think are less lyrical in terms of skill, Eminem, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dog and 50 Cent. Looking at what the people are superficially exposed to, Tupac really isn't a bad choice to call great....Show more
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